August 10 Meeting
“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.” ~unknown
First I would like to apologize for being late with this post. This was a very peculiar meeting that you needed to be present to even believe. (There was a lawn mower in the room at one point)
The meeting started at 6:00 p.m. with a public hearing on the proposed Local Law #2 (Administration and Enforcement of the New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code). This matter was tabled until the September 14th meeting. This meeting will begin at 6:30 p.m. for anyone wishing to comment on this new law and will also give certain board members to spend more time analyzing the proposed law. Please be sure to read this and weigh in with your thoughts.
Curt Rung gave his report here are some highlights from it:
- Changed crossover pipe on Pleasant Valley by County Route 8
- Received $319.20 from scrap
- Cleaned up after the storm
The Justice report showed a check for $430 (give or take) was sent to the state. The state will reimburse the town our share.
The Code Enforcement Officer issued four building permits for a total of $883.60.
Assessors report was that she is still filing and that she turned a disk into Belmont.
Jon Reitz spoke to the board about Invenergy, a windmill company that would like to come and do a presentation for the town. This presentation is set up for August 31 at 7:30 p.m. at the Town Hall. Mr. Jay Schoenberger from Rockville, MD will present all the information to us. The public needs to turn out for this meeting and have your questions ready for Mr. Schoenberger. Once again Mr. Kozlowski did not want us the public to attend this upcoming meeting and he had to be reminded that the board is not the one that set up the meeting. Mr. Reitz was able to set this up for us and we should thank him the next time you see him.
At the end of the meeting a petition was delivered to the Board with over 47 signatures requesting the board require a report from the assessors office. The board saw no problem with this and Alice will present a report to the board from now on.
The next meeting is September 14 at 6:30. Hope to see you there.
In closing I am posting the rules for executive sessions since this board meeting was adjourned with an illegal Executive Session.
§ 4-6. Executive sessions.
A. Defined. Public Officers Law § 102(3) defines “executive session” to mean a portion of an open meeting during which the public may be excluded.
B. Procedure. The town board must strictly comply with the statutory procedure in order to call a valid executive session. [Daily Gazette Co. v. Town of Cobleskill, 111 Misc.2d 303 (Sup. Ct. Schoharie Co. 1981)] The procedure to call an executive session is set forth in Public Officers Law § 105(1). It requires a town board member to make a motion to enter into executive session, which motion must be approved by a majority of the entire town board.
C. Items which can be discussed. The courts have held that the town board motion to enter into executive session must identify with “particularity” the subject to be discussed. As one court stated: “It is insufficient to merely regurgitate the statutory language; to wit, ‘discussions regarding proposed, pending or current litigation.’ This boilerplate recitation does not comply with the intent of the statute.” [Daily Gazette Co., Inc. v. Town of Cobleskill, 111 Misc.2d 303 (Sup. Ct. Schoharie Co. (1981)] Only the following matters specified in Public Officers Law § 105 may be discussed and acted upon in an executive session:
(1) A matter which will imperil the public safety if it is disclosed;
(2) A matter which may disclose the identity of a law enforcement agent or informer;
(3) Information with respect to investigation or prosecution of a criminal offense which would jeopardize effective law enforcement if disclosed;
(4) Discussions relating to proposed, pending or current litigation;
(5) Matters relating to collective negotiations under the Taylor Law;
(6) Medical, financial, credit or employment history of a particular person or corporation, or relating to appointment, promotion, demotion, discipline or removal;
(7) Preparation, grading or administration of examinations;
(8) Acquisition, lease or sale of real property or securities when publicity would substantially affect the value.
D. Personnel matters or litigation. Executive sessions are most frequently used to discuss personnel matters or litigation.
(1) First, Public Officers Law § 105(1)(f) authorizes the town board to enter into executive session to discuss what is commonly referred to as “personnel matters.” The statutory language, however, does not include the word “personnel.” The actual statutory language (as noted above) reads as follows: “the medical, financial, credit or employment history of a particular person or corporation, or matters leading to the appointment, employment, promotion, demotion, discipline, suspension, dismissal or removal of a particular person or corporation.” The Committee on Open Government (the state agency that oversees the Open Meetings Law) has offered the following comments regarding the proper language to use when entering into executive session to discuss personnel matters:
Due to the presence of the term ‘particular’ in § 105(1)(f), it has been advised that a motion describing the subject to be discussed as ‘personnel’ or as a ’specific personnel matter’ is inadequate, and that the motion should be based upon the specific language of § 105(1)(f). For instance, a proper motion might be: ‘I move to enter into an executive session to discuss the employment history of a particular person (or persons).’ Such a motion would not [in the Committee's opinion] have to identify the person or persons who may be the subject of the discussion. (Comm. on Open Govt. OML AO-2444, 1995)
(2) Second, Public Officers Law § 105(1)(d) authorizes the town board to enter into executive session for the purposes of discussing “proposed, pending or current litigation.” In construing this language, one court stated that the purpose of Paragraph (d) is “to enable a public body to discuss pending litigation privately, without baring its strategy to its adversary through mandatory public meetings.” [Mtr of Concerned Citizens to Review Jefferson Val. Mall v. Town Board of Town of Yorktown, 83 A.D.2d 612, 613 (2d Dept. 1981)] The belief of the town’s attorney that a decision adverse to petitioner “would almost certainly lead to litigation” does not justify the conducting of this public business in an executive session. [Weatherwax v. Town of Stony Point, 97 A.D.2d 840 (2d Dept. 1983)] To validly convene an executive session to discuss “proposed, pending or current” litigation, the town board motion must “identify with particularity the pending, proposed or current litigation to be discussed during the executive session.” [Daily Gazette Co. Inc. v. Town of Cobleskill, 111 Misc.2d 303 (Sup. Ct. Schoharie Co. (1981)] Therefore, the town board may discuss litigation strategy behind closed doors but not issues that may only have the potential to lead to litigation.
E. Minutes.
(1) Summary minutes must be made of any final determination taken by formal vote, including the date and the vote thereon; however, such summary should not include any matter which is not required to be made public under the Freedom of Information Law. Such summary minutes shall be available to the public within one week from the date of the executive session.
(2) If no formal action was taken in an executive session, as is often the case, then no executive session minutes need be taken. For example, if the session consisted of a discussion of a personnel matter, but no final action or determination was agreed to or made, then no minutes are required. There would, of course, be minutes of the open meeting at which the motion and vote to go into the executive session was made.
F. Public monies. Public monies cannot be appropriated by formal vote in an executive session.
G. Attendance. The Open Meetings Law provides that attendance at executive sessions must be permitted to any member of “the public body” (that is, the town board members) and any other persons authorized by such body. Therefore, opinions of the State Comptroller (78-254 and 78-462) have concluded that it is clear that the town clerk has no right to attend such sessions but that the town board may, in its discretion, allow the clerk to attend. If the clerk is not allowed to attend, someone should be designated to take any necessary minutes.



I think it is a great idea that the elected officials submit some type of report so the taxpayer know what the elected officials are doing. This would be useful to the voters when an election for that position came up. Even though the board may be satisfied with one line reports it would be better if a more detailed report could be given. You can only file so much.
I believe the munutes of the meeting would be pretty sufficient to let the public know what they are doing.
I agree that the minutes should be sufficient to let the public know what the elected officials are doing but it would be necessary for the elected official to submit a report to the board so this could be accomplished. It is also necessary that the town clerk provide complete and accurate minutes. I suspect this will be accomplished in the near future.
I read in a previous posting that the road crew has yet to chip Pleasant valley rd. due to a lack of funding but this is the first year in a long time that it has not been done. C. Rung stated that he would look into it but I see it still remains undone but the Hassard Rd has been.
I would be interested to know what the cost effective stratagies and cost effectiveness rational for chipping that road were/are. Due to my knowledge that road has been dirt for over 20 years and until recently only had one occupant living on it. The mail has always been able to pass over the dirt road and even though there are now 2 residences on the road, there still remains only 1 mail box. The new residence is less than a year old but the resident lived on, near, and owned the property on the Dirt Hassard Rd for the entirety of his living in Wirt.
The chipping was only done on the wirt end of the road, it was done to a road that travels no school bus, no major traffic destinations, and its not even a short cut for most destinations, so why NOW. Why spend money on such a project while other projects are ramaining unfinished, half done, or not being done at all.
On the other side of town the Davidson Road was chipped, not only is this road not heavily traveled but it also only has three houses on it. One house is a board member, one house is a town highway employee and the other is on the other end. This was a huge waste of taxpayers dollars.
I have noticed though that now that it is closer to election time Mr. Rung is getting along with the village. I am curious to see how long this will last. I have also noticed while driving through town that he has made sure to hit a little bit on each road. Convenient!
This is the time for a change. Get out and vote for a new Highway Superintendent. Now is the time. Of course our current Highway Superintendent is going to make the town ‘look good’…………it’s election time. Don’t be fooled…………get out and vote. This is your ONLY way to make a change. Also, vote for a new Town Supervisor. One that won’t cancel a meeting just because he can’t show up. What is the Deputy Supervisor for ??? Come on Town of Wirt………now IS the time !!!!!!!!!
I realize that the conscious understanding is that if Mr. Rung makes the roads look better now that he will have more civil pull in the township and around the community. However, it would stand to reason that the increase in road work and road changes should actually be relevant to the town. So they chipped 2 roads, over a mile of chip, and there are 5 people residing on these roads. I am not the road supervisor or the highway super. But I do know that is not logical. I understand what is beign done and I will be interested to see the town census to include the tax hike on the individuals on these newly chipped roads. Based on relative understanding it would only stand to reason that the roads have been chipped due to the town wanting to suck up to certain invididuals or they are out to get certain individuals with increased taxation due to living on a chipped road.
Either way, this town is in need of a change and not just in the elections. New blood, maybe someone with an actual education in their field, or at least more experience than “oh well I have seen it before”.
Old values will never get this town out of the rut it is in and those in power in the town will continue to remain there unless the town changes.
Don’t you think if these roads were paved for strickly potical reasons then Mr. Rung would of paved the Dimick between Zimmer and Allentown where the residents have been very vocal about there road condtions instead of the roads where the residents did not expect the road to become paved.
Dan you are asking a lot for Curt to do anything logical. Simple minds think of the simplest solution. Providing good service to the general public throughout your elected term is the most logical solution to making sure you are re-elected, but since that didn’t happen, playing catch-up prior to the election is what would strike him as most rationale and goal oriented.
This town needs some new blood more interested in serving the town’s citizens than their own agenda. Too many of the current members think things should be “a secret” or none of our business. This is no longer an acceptable way to run a town or village government.
We only need to look at today’s paper to see where a town turning a blind eye to the elected member’s behavior to understand that. The Town Judge in Genesee was sentenced for taking from the town coffers. Nobody was paying any attention to her actions. It hurt the town and public opinion. Blind faith is no longer an option in the Town of Wirt.